Questions
From the January 10th Focus
Group "Struggling Reader"
Immediately following the focus group session, all participating
sites reflected upon and discussed what they had seen and heard. Below
are some specific questions and reflections that emerged. Stamford’s
Kim Still-Gilbert and Mark McCann, Cornerstone coaches and demonstration
teachers, responded, and a partial transcript is offered below. (For
a full transcript of answered questions, please note the link at
the bottom of this article.)
Mark your calendars for Cornerstone’s focus group on March
6, the last of a three-part series on “Helping Struggling Readers.” The
network video-conference will address the needs of struggling readers
around issues such as fluency and other best practices for struggling
readers. The focus group will be facilitated by Dr. Pat Paugh,
Assistant Professor at UMass and co-author of A Classroom Teacher’s
Guide to Struggling Readers.
Mark McCann:
How/when would you address students’ misconceptions
about the theme?
When looking at misconceptions, I think it is important to understand
how the “misconception” has been influenced and shaped
by the student’s experiences. It becomes very difficult
to claim that a student hasn’t identified the correct theme. Students
need to substantiate their theme thinking through the text and around
their personal experience. As a teacher, I want to get inside
their head and understand how they are making meaning of the text. The
social interaction, questioning, and comments from peers impact their
thinking. They notice how others perceive the text and are influenced
by their connections. Similarly, having students get inside the
head of the author allows them to see a perspective they might not
share or have thought of. This social interaction is a critical part
of helping students see the text from multiple perspectives. In
conclusion, I first try to understand the thinking of students. I ask
a lot of questions and pose counter arguments to students. They
might adapt their thinking or I might change my understanding or they
may hold tight to their ideas and back them up with more evidence from
the text.
Most of the students seemed to be able to give an accurate
summary of the story. What do you do for those students who can’t
summarize?
Do you have other charts/story maps (differentiated) for
those students who still really struggle with this?
The graphic organizer included in your packet is in its third revision
with this particular group of students. I think it is necessary
to tailor the tool to the specific needs of students. With each
use, I noticed that a part just did not fit into students’ understanding
and seemed to be counterproductive. For example, students were
tripped up with the idea of events that lead to the solution. Their
problem/solution did not match. I eliminated events and had them focus
on problem solution first. This really seemed to help. I
added events back in once they understood the problem/solution connection.
Assessing students is key to instructional decisions. With students
that don’t get it, I try to identify what they don’t get
and tailor a tool to meet their needs.
They also wondered how much planning time the ILS has with
the classroom teacher. How/when do they collaborate?
All grade level teams have 40 minutes of common planning time daily.
On occasion, I meet with the team or with individual teachers to plan
and collaborate. There is a great sense of community and focus
when it comes to literacy- we are all on the same page and have a common
understanding. This shared language and pedagogy facilitates
our work together with children.
Fourth Grade Clip #2
We noticed the theme was not mentioned or pulled out by teacher
in the reading selection of Barefoot, would you revisit to
be sure student was aware of the theme? Would you focus in
on other miscues at a later date perhaps during individual conferencing?
~Was there a discussion of the different genres ie: historical
fiction vs. narrative poetry?
In Barefoot, Andrade states the theme in terms of when there
is danger, you need to run away from it. I had conferred with
him and he was pretty sure this was the theme of the story. He was
certainly very confident about his thinking and thought I might well
be misinformed if I didn’t see it his way! He goes back
into the text and makes a case for the theme. I thought it was
important to acknowledge his brilliant thinking rather than make him
see the text my way. I look at our many opportunities together
to nudge his thinking rather than taking a sledge hammer to it.
I certainly want to take note of the miscues he makes and use
them for future reference and instruction. As often as possible, I
like to deal with miscues as they arise with two criteria. One,
I deal with the miscues that hinder his understanding of the story
and as long as my interference will not interrupt his comprehension. And
two, I want to be quick and focused regarding his miscues rather than
belaboring word after word after word which becomes the lesson. Then
we never would make it to the higher level thinking. In hindsight,
I might have had students use a piece of this text to reread and practice
fluency, especially with a chunk of text that is difficult.
We did have a discussion about the types of genre we were all reading. We
have really been working on genre, text structure and text features
of biography and informational text. While we did not go in depth,
I always want students to think about the genre of all the text they
read. Knowing the type of genre helps inform how you approach
the text.
How many crafting/ mini-lessons did you teach before this
video?
Response (from discussion):
Three, plus discussions/ probing that brought out students’ connections.
I read aloud and modeled using the graphic organizer with three different
stories; William’s Doll, The Carpenter, and The Wolf. I
chose these texts for their theme, length and engagement. Furthermore,
I wanted to use a variety of genres to look at theme; realistic fiction,
folk tale, and a fable. Prior to this I had been following the Springfield
District Reading plan and the focus Genre; biography. I noticed
some gaps in student learning and needed to work with students on retelling
and theme so they could be successful with independent reading.
Question #2: How did you scaffold “retell” (for
a different genre)?
I use lots of modeling, think aloud, and a graphic organizer to help
scaffold their thinking and understanding. Conferencing with students
also provides invaluable insight into student’s skills and builds
relationships to give us a mutual understanding of who we are. I always
begin with books that they can be successful with and go from oral
discussion to writing.
What do you do to circle the students back around to a theme
for books, so that students do not have misconceptions or so they
can extend their understanding?
I just finished reading Patricia Cunningham’s new book, Beyond
Retelling: Higher Order Thinking which is directing me
on how to take students to the next level. Similarly, Joanne Wilson-Keenan
has done work with reading coaches on Depth of Knowledge (DOK). There
are 4 levels to the Depth of Knowledge framework. Students identifying
theme is a level 3 task. It requires students to reason and draw conclusions
where there is more than one correct response. Level 4 is Extended
Reasoning where students relate theme across texts. This model is really
used in test construction but is quite important to how we teach. Theme
thinking across text is my next step when we come back to fiction.
I want to try using Patricia Cunningham’s ideas in her book such
as Big Questions and Concept Maps to move student thinking to the next
level. I will certainly continue working with students and developing
their knowledge and understanding of theme when appropriate with their
independent book bags.
Does the student’s interpretation of the author’s
theme depend upon the student’s schema?
Absolutely! Student interpretation is influenced by their race,
class, gender, and all their life experiences. Student meaning is constructed
in the dynamic interaction between the text, author, teacher and student. Meaning
is negotiated in the context of the classroom and the social interactions
that take place.
Stamford Questions
Kim:
What kind of notes was she writing? How will she use those?
I was taking running records and writing some anecdotal notes down
while listening to the students read. These running records and notes
help me to determine students’ strengths and weaknesses in word
solving and comprehension strategies and therefore help me to determine
my next instructional steps. They’re also very useful as assessment
information when viewed over time and they’re great for showing
parents exactly what it is that their child is doing as a reader. -
Kim
What would be the focus for the next lesson?
The focus of the next lesson was determining which questions were answered
in the text and which were not. This was followed by a lesson on
inferring the answers to some questions and using other resources
(other texts, the internet, etc.) to answer other remaining questions.
- Kim
How do you determine how much wait-time to give students vs.
when to redirect?
My first response is to say that it’s very instinctive, but thinking
about it a bit more I would have to say that it becomes instinctive
once you get to know the individual children and their dispositions.
Coming from a strong ELL background, I tend to give a lot of wait-time
and to paraphrase students’ statements. I think I give more wait-time
to the students who sometimes (already in first grade) think they’re “out
of the game.” I want these students to know that they are in
the game and that I’ll give them all the time they need to process
their thinking. I redirect when I think I may have asked a “dead
end” question or when the students’ responses are leading
us on a tangent. - Kim
When would you (or do you) chart students’ questions/thinking
during small group instruction?
Small group instruction time is so precious to me as a time for really
listening to and observing students, that I rarely chart during this
time. What I will do sometimes is jot down the students’ questions
and thinking and chart it later. Then we can come back to it during
our next meeting, or if I think it would benefit the whole class I
can refer to it during a whole-class lesson. - Kim
Freedman’s Questions
First Grade Clip #1
~Were children taught non-fiction text structures before
embracing this genre?
First I want to make a distinction between non-fiction text structures
and non-fiction text features, just for the sake of clarity. I consider
non-fiction text structures to be organizational structures of text
(enumerative, sequential, chronological, compare-contrast, cause-effect,
and question-answer). (Kristo and Bamford’s text, Nonfiction
in Focus, is a great resource for teaching text structures.) While
I see non-fiction text features to be those features outside of the
traditional realm of “text” that provide information (photographs,
glossary, diagrams, etc.). (Hoyt’s text Make It Real is
helpful for teaching features. Also, there are two texts by Boynton & Blevins
that are great for teaching features and structures – Teaching
Students to Read Nonfiction & Nonfiction Passages With Graphic
Organizers for Independent Practice.)
So, to answer the question, the children were explicitly taught some
of the non-fiction text features before embracing the non-fiction genre,
but instruction in text structure was only an implicit part of the
whole-group instruction and was explicit only for a couple guided reading
groups (primarily DRA Levels 16-24). The reasoning behind this decision
was that in the majority of the texts the children were reading, the
text features provided them with a richer source of information than
the understanding of text structures would have. - Kim
~What activity were other students engaged in during small
group instruction?
On the day of this lesson, the other students were engaged in independent
reading of nonfiction texts and each student has his/her own KWL chart
to fill out. After the KWL chart was completed, students engaged in
buddy reading. – Kim
~Did teacher select books for this particular lesson or did
the students have input?
I chose the books for this lesson primarily due to the shortage of
leveled nonfiction text in the building. We are trying to build a larger
collection of leveled non-fiction text and the fairly recent increase
in the publication of such texts is helpful in this endeavor. The texts
that were used in this lesson were all from Pioneer Valley Educational
Press, a local and favorite publisher of leveled text. (No, I’m
not getting any perks for this little promotion.)
- Kim
~Why did teacher basically target in on one student (Jose)?
I focused in on Jose in this lesson because he seemed genuinely interested
in the text and this isn’t always the case with Jose. I really
wanted to give him some positive reinforcement for showing so much
interest and enthusiasm. - Kim
Harris Questions
Question #2: Was there a purposeful decision to turn
the pages of the student’s book?
It was a decision I made in the spur of the moment. This student was
engaged in the discussion of the text, but was physically antsy. I
thought that if I redirected his physical behavior, it might interfere
with his engagement and I didn’t want to take that risk so I
turned the pages for him as a way to maintain his engagement. - Kim
Question #3: Vocabulary was rich. How do you embed
the vocabulary? What are the next steps?
Some of the vocabulary is placed in our Word Jar for students to refer
to at another time and also for students who weren’t a part of
that guided reading group to learn and have access to. One of the next
steps taken with this vocabulary was to teach the students to draw
on it and use it in their writing, specifically around the writing
about animals at the beginning of Unit 3 in the Springfield Learning
Center plans. - Kim
Key Elementary
For Kim:
What introduction did you give the students in the use of
the KWL charts? Was this the first time for them to use a KWL?
I introduced the KWL chart by using language the children were already
familiar with. I framed the K section of the chart as a place where
children could write down their schema for the topic and draw on their
connections. I framed the L section of the chart as a place where students
could notice their new learning and jot it down. Activating schema
and noticing new learning were two practices the students had already
engaged in and had success with in their reading of nonfiction text,
so the only new practice for them would be to write down their questions,
which they had had an introduction to the previous day. This was the
first time this school year that the children had used KWL charts.
- Kim
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